Bella especially went through absolute hell. WTF?!? Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? Please click here to register for free. I wish I hadn't read that final interview with the murderer. LEONARD reported that he and . LEONARD was unable to get details from her. Its something Borderlines do, although I dont think she was one. The FBI agents are being complimented as ingenius interrogators, but their smarminess is also cringeworthy. She wanted her name to be unique and to standoutand to make pharmacists nervous about trying to call it out over the PA system without offending her. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. The Netflix shows details the deteriorating relationship between Chris and Shanann, who began suspecting her husband was having an affair and felt he was suddenly pulling away from her. Text messages obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by the Daily Mail show Shanann Watts was trying to save her marriage in the weeks before her husband, Chris Watts, murdered her and her two daughters. Hello and thank you for registering. There's no such suggestion of that scenario in the discovery. The discovery docs included an interview with the ex. As reported by People, "Over the summer, Shanann [Watts . That wasnt a real work trip, it was a boondoggle to cavort with her fat friends. , updated R107, yup yup yup. Most states are nowadays. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. "The hetero ladies who get their panties wet over a guy who murdered his wife and kids are creepy.". Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. The mother seemed to know or assume that her two daughters had staged the creepy dead doll, writing around 2.30pm: 'At least they covered the body together. On Thursday, authorities found three bodies: Shanann was buried in a shallow grave about 40 miles east of their home at a work site belonging to her husband's former employer (which fired him. What's fascinating about her, OP? He had already been contacted by NBC News. Does anyone think Shan'ann killed her ugly kids, like Chrissy claimed? He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. [quote]However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. Women like that can get him to do anything. Watts said in televised interviews that she arrived home at around 1am on Monday August 13, claiming that that they two stayed up having an 'emotional conversation' until he left at 5.15am. He probably considered the kids' murders as a mercy killing. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. My sister and I both had asthma when we were kids in the 80s. She would terrify me. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her.LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. Until her murder, her biggest problem in life was the spelling of her name. They got married around 2002/2003 and divorced around 2007/2008. The more I look into that marriage, the worse I feel. I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. R163, I didnt say she was a prostitute; she was scamming, embezzling, laundering money. I feel its a form of abuse to film and live broadcast your family at all times. She wanted a Lexus. He was charged with five counts . However, she fell oddly silent after the post on August 9 at around 11.46pm, which showed the plastic doll lying shrouded on a leather loveseat. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. R166: Do you have evidence of this scamming and embezzlement? She was 25. LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. The moral of this story? R118 Sorry. LEONARD denied that he currently had any policies on her life. Maybe it was a neat and tidy rule. Meanwhile, she was torturing and starving her children. I don't knowdon't strive to live in the suburbs in a big fucking house with a spouse who spends money or one who is mentally unstable and has access to oil vats, and, most importantly, don't fucking have kids. Yes, R231, good point! The other thing that made me think he dated her because her nickname implies she has hanann was bitchy and competitive and condescending. He was sentenced Monday to. According to Shananns mother, the surgery on her neck cost them $100. Shanann Cathryn Watts, 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 & Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 & unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018. RELATED:. Technically, Chris had power in a divorce action, but because he was so trapped financially, he couldnt even start the process and learn that he did have some options. What bank is giving a 20-something single woman making, what, $40k/year TOPS? For anyone who hasn't read it here's his CBI interview copied/pasted directly from the Discovery: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3UsLEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. Shed go to his friends houses and make fun of them after, for being too small or not having proper china or their decor for being quaint (thats rich). R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? Someone in one of the threads said they drove through the area and it's pretty barren and underdeveloped. I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. In the August, 2018 video, Chris was was stunningly buff. Jesus Christ dangling from the cross what is wrong with some of you. Everyone was a useful idiot, to her. Maybe Shanann was exercising a little self-discipline and not buying dining room furniture till they could afford it?". He has changed. A friends wife hugged and kissed Chris and Shanann forbade them from socializing with that couple again. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. R38, Id love to know how they were able to afford their lifestyle, too. I assure you i am not a moron. R128 Well, his plans were foiled when her flight was delayed hours, and the friend called 911 early the next day. Plus, there was a newspaper article written about the tire place she worked in in NC, and in the article her name was spelled "Shanann," and a lawsuit filed against her with her named spelled "Shanann.". Imagine giving up coffee, snacks, trivial shit -- all to save money, only to come home to the latest $10,000 shipment of Lularoe "inventory". Doubtful, and is most likely the second (or third or fourth) time Shanann lies about medical costs to cover her ridiculous spending habits. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. More than a half year before their affair began. And she had turned thee dining room into a clothing store with commercial racks filled with clothes. He deserves peace. Yes, too little to late on her end. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. Spot on r147. The interest must have been insane. I just dont get that at all. That poster has a strange definition for cuter.. Considering how Shanann gained the confidence of others and used them, I have no doubt she wouldve alienated the girls against Chris. Chris Watts. LOL. She was trying to be cool and ethnic with the new spelling and pronounciation of her name. They were good marks, since they sold everything in 2015, quit their jobs, and moved in with Chris and Shanann for 15 months while Shanann was pregnant with CeCe, who was born July, 2015. He is a greedy as fuck sociopath. R58 even sounds offended that they don't meet his standards for child attractiveness. LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. What a shame that you cant gawk at a picture of murdered children that r116 thinks they look cuter in. Why was their marriage not going well? That router article is amazing . I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. And she wasnt flipping. All i could think of while watching this video, is what was going thru the minds of financially strapped husbands watching their wives spend money they didn't have on these scams? Probably. And to restate the obvious again - if you are married, make sure you have your own individual accounts. I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. I know that being a pain in the ass isn't grounds for death; if it were, I'd have been dead long ago. Worse than anything that I or any DL detective squad member dreamed upand we had a lot of theories about what went down since this happened. Do not let your spouse engage in financial infidelity and ruin you! It's very hard to lie your way through a mortgage loan process. Their last hours were terrifying & uncomfortable & their deaths were neither quick or painless. And did she legally change it? Ill bet he tried so hard to keep his 401k funded. Her folks referred to her as Shannan at Chris's sentencing and she was named in thar lawsuit against the rim shop as Shannan King (her first husband's surname). Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. DEFINITELY 1 and 3, probably 2. Her mother wasnt meddling in her business. After the divorce, LEONARD kept his, but changed it to $100k and changed the beneficiary. Her husband should have left her & divorced her, or never married her in the first place. So is Sandra referring to new debt that Shanann told her about? ^ Um, yes she was. Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site R145, youre right about that. Munchausen's, and Munchausen's By Proxy! Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . She was not confrontational and more withdrew.#ShanannWatts #ChrisWattschris watts, true crime, true crime history, watts crime, watts family, cece watts, bella watts, tori hartman, chris watts history, chris watts timeline, live video, cbs news, colorado man. I don't think sshe would EVER have been satisfied with any sense of "enough". At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. And they were his children too, not just shannons. NEVER. It reminds me of the wasteland between Gatsbys mansion and the City. The family is survived by Shananns father, Frank Rzucek; Mother, Sandra Onorati Rzucek; Brother, Frankie Rzucek whom were inseparable and best friends; Uncle, Rocky Onorati; Aunt, Sharyn Onorati; Aunt, Robynn Odom; Uncle, Steve Onorati; and many nieces, nephews, cousins and close friends. I would wager that no gay here appreciates that type of reasoning when it goes against your own practices ( as on forums where it's said, they make that choice, nothing excuses it). What a fucking nightmare! Oh how Shanann was so excited to be able to have another child because of her battle with Lupus. No, but the evidence to support it is in the discovery, R261. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. and missed three mortgage payments on the house that they couldn't afford. She and the kids would still be alive and he wouldn't be spending the rest of his life in jail. But Shannon was not normal, since she had her whole materialistic/I and my kiddos are so sick con gig going. Shananns husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background.". They came out here with no jobs, no place to live, a house to sell in NC, and a wedding to plan in NC. And Im pretty sure Colorado wouldve ruled that Shanann couldnt use her kids as props in any more public Thrive videos. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. Shanann was going to become just like her mother and Chriss mother. I posted earlier extensively about my suspicion that Chris went BALLISTIC about financial stress after getting the mail and seeing the Younique, Le-Vel, etc, charges on ballooning credit cards and then forging (I think) Shanann's signature when she was in NC, on the summons for the lawsuit by the Wyndham Hills HOA. Then lived there as long as she could before filing bankruptcy. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. But the whole "act of passion" angle doesn . Also, the surgery was in autumn, 2017, two years after the 2015 BK. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Of course we can say nice things about her, too. Didnt last long, because how can you grift from a call center? I really didnt. But Colorado courts wouldve absolutely not allowed her to move out of state and take the girls, unless there was a good reason (my parents will provide day care for the kids - but they couldnt, since they both had to work) or Chris agreed. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts was a con. I feel kind of the same way. Auto mechanics are catnip to gold diggers. Chris even said to the investigators at one point: Bellas a smart girl, she knew what was going on. Shanann was born January 10, 1984 in New Jersey to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Onorati Rzucek. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. He was so clinical in throwing away his wife (understandable) but the kids? She did not "purchase" any house. I also find that interesting which seems to me she couldnt handle conflict either. Mortgages became harder to get after the 08 recession. But I do view him as a victim. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. Shan'ann's former boss and lover, Hisham. Watts worked as an operator with the oil drilling company Anadarko. Anybody else feel this way? Shes the most interesting one, isnt she? The fact that the physician performing her autopsy found "no evidence of disease". Police say the three victims were murdered in their home and later transported to the oil field. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. She was the store manager. Why are you so concerned about what these children look like? Ty for that info, I'd read it previously but had forgotten most of it. LEONARD denied that he currently had any policies on her life. When they have to explain themselves preemptively or repeatedly, watch out. How many times did this trashy couple declare bankruptcy? I had trouble sleeping after reading it. The following day, Chris spoke with local media outlets from . I cant figure out how they got so deeply in debt AGAIN after the first bankruptcy. True R63. jim martin death couples massage class san diego beaver falls football shanann watts first marriage. No wonder Cindy and Ronnie Watts said she was bipolar. He left one of their bed sheets in the field with the bodies. The Websleuths crazies who want to blame the victim come here. Chris and Shanann got married on November 3, 2012, in Mecklenberg County, North Carolina. Chris Watts was convicted of murdering. Unless theres a strong family history and a red flag symptom, no one that age has a fucking colonoscopy. It would be the only thing to do, R213. What's the source on that 500k figure? Unless the new lover is a threat to the kids or is causing financial ruin. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. I thought, "huh. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. I can't believe this thread got GRAY-LINED! This was from an interview with one of Shanann's Thrive friends, that they all were friendly. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. He was obviously still fucking his wife yet he was still a crazy horn dog. The girls needed two years of doctor visits before they finally received the correct diagnosis of asthma (the diagnosis was made by a PA). LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. I knowMARY! Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. R211, they should have used a female investigator with gigantic breasts, grating voice and bossy demeanor. Hello. Services are entrusted to Boles Funeral Home of Southern Pines. An accomplice would have driven her car out to the site, they would have detonated the explosion and voila. Chris pleaded guilty to the crimes that . R122 Well, what is your standard? The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing . R230, Guuurrrl, this is the only place we're allowed to talk about her Munchausen's and Munchausen's by Proxy. The apostrophe made no fucking sense. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. 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