That's who he is. In addition, the Miracles have been regarded as the most covered act in Motown's roster and have influenced numerous artists worldwide in the last 50 years. -"But since I'm in the neighborhood, an easy one: The Ramones. I want to see Chicago. Under no circumstances whatsoever, should AC/DC sit above Rush, period. "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" Chuck Jackson Cream He was the 2nd best player on the Lakers teams from '08-'10, but didn't make the cut for the original Pyramid. Prince Is there any way we can realign the pyramid with the artist rankings we did over the course of last year? Bill breaks it down with his former ESPN colleague J.A. R.E.M: 10/10 Muddy Waters: 10/10 10.. Doobie Brothers-5 Was the Harden trade the NBAs biggest what if? ever? I'm also with you on the Byrds being where they are. Even as he was on the downside of his career, he was still hitting huge shots that swung championships. Bird, 5. Not quite sure. 124. Joni Mitchell Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. Level Two: Im-Ho-Tep (Boris Karloff) I know, they did it with the strength of ONE album. Posted by Philip on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 17:53pm. I was reviewing a post which I had written some time ago. The Mamas and the Papas (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) Posted by John R.C. But the Celtics Brogdon is mounting a well-rounded campaign that hearkens back to some of the earliest Sixth Men. Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:04pm. The Four Tops: 10/10 Carl Perkins: 10/10 11. 198. The Hollies Smokey Robinson (and the Miracles) Bon Jovi: 4/10 The Clash: 10/10 1997 This thread is archived Tina Turner-3 most best artists list Tina Turner solo, even though it includes her work with Ike, would just be easier to have them slot right next to eachother They were the FIRST Motown group. Bull. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid ABA All-Time Team NBA & ABA All-Star Game All-Star Game Selections by Player All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player All-Defensive Team Selections by Player NBA Referee Awards Greg Willard Spirit Award NCAA Season Awards AP Player of the Year Award John R. Wooden Award Traffic: 7/10 Randy Newman: 1 99. Deal wit' it, yo. 173. Star in 1972, The Jackson Five. Thanks, SHREK, for your bullshit opinion. 58. You can rattle the L5 guys off the top of your head: The Beatles. All the Indiana Jones films Dan Issel, 88. 1. Magic, 4. Michael Jackson 219. Whoopee. Ray Charles: 10/10 SMF 2015, Simple Machines. 114. The Moody Blues- 5 And yes, the RRHOF still is missing a Tier 4 group in Kraftwerk because the voters are idiots who hate Electronic music (amongst other things). "[9] Producer Quincy Jones called the group the "Beethovens of The 20th Century" due to their songwriting talents. I do think the pyramid needs serious changes cause gaye, prince, franklin, jackson, bowie, and maybe tupac have overtaken taken some of the 5 in recent years in many ways. Lowest tier. "We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts Posted by williams on Monday, 10/21/2019 @ 09:31am, The 2020 inductees The 2011 Finals might be the single most impressive accomplishment by a NBA player in my lifetime. Nicest inductee: Buddy Holly [if he was still alive], Queen, Roger Daltery, Tony Iommi, Fats Domino. In the case of Ray Charles, the musical influence he had is so massively widespread across multiple genres, so well documented, and seemingly so obvious to the ears of anybody with half a musical ear who takes the time to actually listen to what popular music sounded like before he began having hits and what it sounded like after those hits; that your statement that you "don't see the influence" marks you as either too historically uneducated or too biased by your tastes to really be a serious participant in evaluating such topics of discussion. 50. N.W.A: 9/10 Posted by Zach on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 20:08pm. the doobie brothers - 1 1986 Jimmie Rodgers Dolly Parton (may argue for level 2 but I feel even being a well-known figure in country does not translate to being "rock royalty" just like Davis, Simone, etc.) 3/10 = Mediocre 215. 140. I would also move Aretha Franklin, Little Richard & Bob Marley up to 5 as well. Posted by Yours Truly on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 22:40pm. - I made it an actual pyramid so each level contains fewer players than the previous level. Dionne Warwick (Level 1), Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 04/24/2022 @ 13:54pm, Oh i have more adjustments: 195. Joan Baez: 6/10 The Velvet Underground: 10/10 Posted by Robert Henry on Tuesday, 05/31/2016 @ 13:51pm. Because of the lamestream press' overhype of the Pistols, several people actually think they started punk rock, which of course they didn't. "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. Queen Percy Sledge: 2/10 -Most snubbed? Adande. Brenda Lee 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons Jackson Browne: 7/10 Hey, the Thunder traded the wrong guy! 2001 HOW I BECOME SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE THROUGH THE RICHES OF ILUMINATI "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. . Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid on: June 02, 2010, 10:15:23 pm . https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html Paul Simon: 8/10 Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid Author Bosco Tung About 96 of the Greatest Basketball players of all time, as selected by Bill Simmons in The Book of Basketball in 2010. 1988 The Lion King, Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 20:04pm. Still hasnt talked about a ton of the top guys. Its impossible to figure out Stephen Currys phenomenal decade without hashing through everything that happened that night. Well, nice as that was, the moment is passed, and the Ramones are virtually irrelevant to the contemporary musical landscape. That said, the O'Jays' and the Mamas And The Papas' scores of O.000 is absolutely ludicrous, if for no other reason than saying they have no "Fame" to their name is utterly absurd. The Allman Brothers Band: 9/10 Oscar Robertson, 10. The Cars you like simmons a lot. Their experimentation? 1. Van Morrison: 10/10 Bill Simmons' Hall of Fame Basketball Pyramid Basketball Hall of Fame Sets Number of Required Items 95 Current Finest Possible Set Rating 09.816 View Set Checklist Shop Set Start Set Notes: This set requires official rookie cards for each player. 224. 1988 Lead Belly Laura Nyro: 4/10 Look at the artists in group 3 and then where Radiohead is in group 4. Eminem-Level 4-In my opinion, Eminem has absolutely had an impact and back catalogue that can stand aside against David Bowie, U2, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John etc. 107. Chicago - 2 (they are more than just a garden variety level 1 band, too many hits, if Billy Joel and Rod Stewart are level 2, then Chicago fits) Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? Level Three: Ramses (Yul Brynner) Favorite induction year: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2006, 2013. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts: 5/10 The Beatles should be level 0, abd Poison moves up to level 5. ELO - 1 158. Baez - 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 18:38pm, Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/14/2017 @ 09:13am. I'm really not surprised you could do that. The Rock Pyramid is missing the class of 2017 and 2018 inductees. The Zombies 10. "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. Sam Jones, 38. I love this site and all the work you do. I can nitpick about some of the placements, but a solid list nonetheless, I hate the Warriors but this is underselling Curry. He could've won the 2011 MVP. Martha & The Vandellas: 8/10 Beyond that, a proper redesigning would go something like this: Bo Diddley: 10/10 Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. Buffalo Springfield Granted, I still enjoy most of the artists I've advocated during my heyday on FRL, but I simply have no time for music that overemphasizes lyrics at the expense of musicianship and technical ability. "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. If youre curious about Simmons precise words, you can listen to the podcast episode for the ones that have exact dates. Posted by some guy on Friday, 03/27/2020 @ 16:59pm. He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment. Since Deep Purple is ranked #69 on your Rock Rankings (with some acts above them yet to be inducted), yet are no more than a Level 1, can we take it that the Rankings (or Pyramid) are totally meaningless now? Monty Python's The Meaning of Life Carl Perkins Is Paul a better athlete than Stockton? Sorry i number the questions wrong so I come up with a new question for # 5: 131. Bobby Womack: 7/10 Chuck Berry: 10/10 Dave Cowens, 35. 12. Were they just dominant at times? They wrote 95 % of their OWN HITSplus hits for THE TEMPTATIIONS , MARVIN GAYE, MARY WELLS, THE MARVELETTES,and NUMEROUS OTHERS !! The Who, The Kinks, Public Enemy, Sex Pistols and Muddy Waters "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. The Notorious B.I.G.-2 Depeche Mode (Level 2) The Dells: 5/10 I guess SONGWRITING , PRODUCING, and INFLUENCE are considered more IMPORTANT than flashy choreography,flashy clothes,and Pop success!! To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. 201. this is a statement of fact, no judgement involved. I did it anyways. Al Ciraldo Voice of Georgia Tech Athletics. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 09:54am. Best hip hop: I don't much care for it, but even I would concede Public Enemy's suitability. Roxy Music: 8/10 83. Ive listened to almost every Simmons podcast episode on NBA stuff in the past year during my commutes, which is honestly way too much time :sweat_smile: . 146. Hell, when it comes time for kanye are we really gonna say his mark isn't bigger than say the who (who i love)? Rick Caffey Audacy Atlanta. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: 9/10 "The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques The Pretenders Prince, The Beatles, James Brown, Public Enemy, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, The Rolling Stones, Beastie Boys, Louis Jordan, Michael Jackson, Little Richard, Sly & the Family Stone, Frank Zappa, Stevie Wonder, Parliament-Funkadelic, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Buddy Holly, The Miracles, The Beach Boys, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Booker T. & the MGs, Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Carole King, Run-DMC, Chuck Berry, David Bowie, The Drifters, Fats Domino, Miles Davis, The Velvet Underground and Nirvana. Were they just dominant at times? This is what this site is partly for, to share opinions and all. The Clash: 10/10 Send a Message. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The Moonglows: 6/10 19. Quietest: George Harrison, John Deacon (Queen) Eagles: 9/10 Underrated, or too low: John Mellencamp, Mamas+Papas, Temptations, Frank Zappa, The Rascals, The Hollies, Posted by Bill on Tuesday, 08/19/2014 @ 19:29pm. Somebody else played their brand of rock and roll around their time who was better. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band Donna Summer: 8/10 Best hip hop: Public Enemy. DEFINITELY !! "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett . The Temptations: 10/10 2019 Madonna "(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's 203. The inductees on Level 1 on the other hand, are often the reason the Rock Hall makes so many people crazy. I don't have a problem with ranking KD over those guys. The Stooges (Level 3) Eurythmics (Level 1) King 111. 159. Posted by John R.C. The Stooges Simon and Garfunkel He was (and still is) well-regarded by just about everyone regardless of genre. I can't say that I feel the same about Costello being even with The Talking Heads. 2004 "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra. Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls are in the most appropriate level. Rating Numbers: I'd bump them up to Level 2 simply because of how they advanced a genre that was pretty much on the fringes before they came along. 3/10 = Mediocre According to the picture, that's where Level 5 is. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 03:26am. "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. He finished Top 10 in MVP voting 4 times. B. Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 05:27am. "According to several websites, the Miracles are one of the most oft-covered groups in recorded history and the most covered Motown group ever. I cannot think of a single scandal or controversy in which he was involved, and I've never heard or read a negative word about him. But, to each their own. Heart- 4 "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, UFO8, Mike and The Mechanics, and She & Him among many others. Percy Sledge I'll do this by at least 3 or 4 parts. 152. Roy Orbison: 10/10 Aerosmith: 9/10 Most weird inductee? With the Shaq/Kobe era crumbling against a hungry 2004 Pistons team, Shaquille ONeal tried to save the day with a memorable throwback performance. A couple others like AC/DC 2/10 = Failure Dire Straits (borerline 1/2) Is there anyone not in the Hall who could be a 4? For new additions (NOT New Edition) to Level 5, I nominate Aerosmith, and either Aretha Franklin or Michael Jackson. Tracy McGrady, 89. 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